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Post by Ms. Halliwell on Sept 8, 2007 4:56:17 GMT -5
I don't think so. At least not as much as he loved Phoebe - no chance.
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Post by Juels on Mar 21, 2008 18:19:37 GMT -5
to be honest i think Cole loved Phoebe just as much as Leo loved Piper , so i really dont think he could of loved anybody else  |
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Post by X on Mar 24, 2008 13:30:39 GMT -5
I sincerely doubt Cole could love someone as much as Cole loved Phoebe. Personally I was pulling for him the entire time, even for a Season 8 comeback, and was sorely disappointed when they threw in a cupid with basically no storyline or character development. I know some of you probably like Coop, but he had was a flat character. Cole was by far the best guy for Phoebe. And really, I doubt he could love someone else as much as he loved her.
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Post by MagicalEdgemaster5 on May 30, 2009 2:46:09 GMT -5
True, there was no way he was just gonna have those same feelings for anybody else to the extent that he had them for Phoebe, but assuming he could theoretically find an escape from this plane he's on between life and death somehow, is it possible for him to love again? Yes. Entirely too. All he would need is the right guidance and the will to embark on his own destiny and the possibles become almost endless.
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Post by halliwellwyatt on May 30, 2009 12:44:51 GMT -5
The love that had for Phoebe transcended good and evil and he changed for her! That is a 'true' love there is nothing stronger...I believe you only get one of those I dont think he could have loved anyone again...I mean his love was what killed him...
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Post by MagicalEdgemaster5 on May 30, 2009 20:23:51 GMT -5
The love that had for Phoebe transcended good and evil and he changed for her! That is a 'true' love there is nothing stronger...I believe you only get one of those I dont think he could have loved anyone again...I mean his love was what killed him... That begs to question how Phoebe was able to move on, though. Does this mean it only transcended good and evil for him, but to her it was just another guy she fell for and invested her hopes into? Or can it be argued that if she could love again after the two of them broke up, then so could he? |
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Post by halliwellwyatt on May 31, 2009 3:51:11 GMT -5
NO I think for her and him their love was 'true' love she found with others ws love but not 'true' or as stong as theirs
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Post by HollymCombs on May 31, 2009 20:59:35 GMT -5
Keep in mind Phoebe really didn't have any great relationships until she finally settled down with Coop (3 seasons after Cole's death, and pretty much 4 since she ended her relationship with Cole).
I personally don't think Cole could have loved again since Phoebe literally meant EVERYTHING to him. He couldn't imagine his life without her, and in "Sam I Am" tried to get her to help him kill himself (I know this off the top of my head since I just watched that episode last night lol).
But, although Phoebe loved Cole so much, she forced herself to put that love aside for all that she believed in. In her mind he had been the Source of all evil, and now had a ridiculous amount of powers that she believed would eventually make him evil. Her morals and her feelings about being good kept her away from him in the 5th season.
She put a lot at risk by marrying a demon (well, former demon so she thought), so I think that proves that she truly did love him. But she forced herself to try to move on in a way Cole couldn't seem to.
I always did want them to get back together in Season 5, but what can you do...
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Post by MagicalEdgemaster5 on Jun 5, 2009 23:33:46 GMT -5
Like you easily alluded to, though, Phoebe had her family and her Wiccan duties to help her cope, deal, and move on. Cole had nobody and nothing but his love for Phoebe and a seemingly limitless set of powers which one could say forced him to lean on them and ended up costing him every ounce of sympathy, respect, or even remote compassion that Phoebe had ever held for him, much less love.
Perhaps if there had been someone to come around and show him some form of care - not necessarily a love interest, but at the very least someone who treated him like a person rather than as a scourge (the Halliwells), a sex god (Kaia), or a powerful force to align oneself with (Kaia, Avatars, various demons) - then perhaps he would've finally received that motivation to move on, become his own man without Phoebe, and maybe even find love again somewhere.
Theoretically, let's say Kyra was the season 7 character that was carried over from season 5 encounters with Cole instead of the Avatars. Simply via that suggestion, it becomes gapingly obvious that his fate could've deservedly turned out very quite different, if you catch my drift.
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Post by halliwellwyatt on Jul 22, 2009 5:04:52 GMT -5
His love for Phoebe literaly killed him because he altered time and that killed him. I think he never could have loved again that loved consumed him. As her wrote in a letter to Phoebe:
I was dead before I met you. I was born the day I met you and my love for you will keep me alive forever.
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Post by phoebe13 on Aug 2, 2009 15:16:47 GMT -5
No I dont think he could have loved anyone after wat phoebe did. He still loved her after she vanquished him.
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Post by piper113 on Aug 3, 2009 21:31:13 GMT -5
noooooooooooooooooo way
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Post by MagicalEdgemaster5 on Aug 7, 2009 19:46:25 GMT -5
It seems we've all been caught in the trap of that well-concocted disaster they call season 5. And the reason I say "well-concocted disaster" is because the writing was far from incompetent, in fact the total opposite as usual when it comes to Charmed, but the premise of what they successfully tried to accomplish was absolute crap. Cole was exited in a gradual process that made his character look like nothing beyond the point of I-want-Phoebe. And clearly it worked and is still working on you guys to some extent, since nobody here except me is even giving this guy much credit for what his own destiny could've been.
I'm not saying he and Phoebe weren't soulmates. I'm not saying he can love someone else the same way and with the same fire like he loved Phoebe. Nor am I saying that he can ever actually truly forget about her. That's impossible. I'm simply saying, had he ever been treated like a human being- y'know, like a person, during any point in season 5, he would've been capable of moving on past the point of I-want-Phoebe and who knows what could've happened from there. Phoebe may have awakened Cole's humanity, but she didn't give him humanity. She may have lifted his heart from the darkness, but she didn't give him a heart. She may have inspired and strengthened his soul, but she didn't give him a soul. Look back at seasons 3 and 4, the ones where Cole Turner was written to be portrayed in his proper respect, and it might be somewhat difficult, but you have to admit, you will find multiple good things that Cole did in that time that were not about being with Phoebe. Even his guest appearance in season 7 wasn't about getting Phoebe back. Granted, that was impossible at that point, but it's still true.
Again, I'm not dismissing the effect Phoebe had on him, or the epic love story that was Cole and Phoebe, or the fact that, move on or not, she will always be in his heart in some way or another and possibly vice versa ("possibly" meaning "unless you actually count her saying she never 'knew love' until Coop [who I personally don't respect] as anything telling"). Matter of fact, that was part of one of my favorite things about the show. But there's too much emphasis on it like it's his entire character, to the point where it kinda feels he's apparently just considered a large footnote in Phoebe. And the fact is, that's just not true at all. Which is part of why I love their love, no pun intended, because how could it be special if a big footnote in Phoebe is all he ever was?
It was thanks to Phoebe's love that Cole was able to find his true inner goodness and the sheer power of will to be himself. In his own words, he was "dead" before he met her. But then again, in his own words, he was "dead" before he met her. Not "nonexistent" like the overt emphasis on this seems to suggest. Phoebe's role notwithstanding, Cole's inner goodness was always Cole's to find, and until the season of death, she and a set of uncontrollable powers did not define him. That's a part of what made Cole and Phoebe so special together that I think most of you are overlooking, the part that makes Cole a special character. Overblowing the impact of their love, especially if only on his end, effectively takes what made it epic and special out of it. You guys seem to be missing that. Season 5 at work.
But I don't know. That's just my take on it.
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Post by HollyMarieFan on Apr 9, 2010 9:12:38 GMT -5
I dont think so he was too much in love with Phoebe and he never got over her so no i dont think he could
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Post by halliwellwyatt on Apr 9, 2010 13:03:59 GMT -5
I just don't think he coud have he was head over heels in love with her, source infected or not he loved phoebe
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