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Post by blacksheep on Jan 10, 2009 12:34:26 GMT -5
What moments in the charmed tv show and in the books was the worst idea. I think killing of andy and turning cole human was the worst idea.
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Post by HollymCombs on Jan 10, 2009 15:01:57 GMT -5
I agree about killing of Andy (I really wish they kept him on the show longer), but I didn't mind Cole turning human. I really wanted Phoebe and Cole to be together, and him turning human seemed like the only logical next step.
What I really didn't like was them taking Leo off the show for a lot of the 8th season. He had been with them since Season 1, and I don't think they should have cut him rather than cut someone like Billie or Christy. If they can afford to put new characters on the show, they should be able to afford to keep the old ones. I also didn't like that they took off Darryl. He has been on the show since episode 1, and he shouldn't have been cut from the eigth season either.
Hmmm what else. Oh I know! I thought it was a bad idea to have Dex on for part of Season 8 rather than just bring in Coop from the start. If Phoebe was supposed to end up with Coop, they should have started developing his character in the very beginning of the season.
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Post by •Kaylaaa. on Jan 10, 2009 16:21:05 GMT -5
I agree about killing of Andy (I really wish they kept him on the show longer), but I didn't mind Cole turning human. I really wanted Phoebe and Cole to be together, and him turning human seemed like the only logical next step. What I really didn't like was them taking Leo off the show for a lot of the 8th season. He had been with them since Season 1, and I don't think they should have cut him rather than cut someone like Billie or Christy. If they can afford to put new characters on the show, they should be able to afford to keep the old ones. I also didn't like that they took off Darryl. He has been on the show since episode 1, and he shouldn't have been cut from the eigth season either. Hmmm what else. Oh I know! I thought it was a bad idea to have Dex on for part of Season 8 rather than just bring in Coop from the start. If Phoebe was supposed to end up with Coop, they should have started developing his character in the very beginning of the season. I basically agree with you on everything, Val. Haha, I mean why throw a random Dex guy in there who was a complete jerk anyways. I mean, at least I thought he was a complete jerk and plus... having Phoebe and him get married or whatever was really just kind of eh. It wasn't a good idea. The fact that they KEPT breaking Piper and Leo up really began to rattle my nerves. I can understand a few times, but I mean in almost every season something happened with those two breaking up or separating for a bit. It just got really annoying. I can't really think of anything else besides what has already been stated - but if I think of anything else, I'll say something.
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Post by MagicalEdgemaster5 on Jan 14, 2009 14:43:42 GMT -5
About the whole taking Leo off for a few episodes thing… I disagree. Every season brings in new major characters (or changes in characters introduced in recent past seasons, or both) for storylines to for a good part revolve around. And sure, while none of the 8th season additions seriously blew my mind away at all times and one of them quite frankly just easily felt like the mail-ordered opportunist that he basically is, the fact remains that without them, what would the 8th season storyline have been? The Triad brings Cole back (difficult to do, as I'm under the impression that Julian McMahon seriously enjoys working on Nip/Tuck even more than he did Charmed) and turns Leo evil and the sisters have to fight to save them both in order to survive?
…wait, actually, that would've probably been a good one. All they'd have to do is come up with a good plan involving decent rituals and well-coordinated demon attacks to free Cole from limbo (the hardest part to convincingly do), and turn both him and Leo into powerful demons (Leo a Darklighter) impervious both to love and to the Charmed Ones' powers, and we have an angle. The only new character required now would be Henry. And even he's a maybe, because last I recall, Kyle Brody wasn't killed in a public setting, and right after the battle that did it the Avatars brought in their own personal Utopia, and thus could've erased his body to avoid conflict. The Elders then have him come back as a whitelighter. So how any mortals, even from the FBI, were actually to know he was dead and not simply disappeared I have no clue. He could've come back via the Elders realizing this and appointing him as the Charmed Ones' new whitelighter, assumed that role through this and stayed with Paige through the end.
Speaking of the end, make it one huge final battle, more taxing than anything they've ever done both physically and powers wise, that ends with Leo and Cole being convinced not only of their love for Piper and Phoebe respectively, but of the fact that the Triad was simply gonna kill them off as soon as they killed the girls - at which point they turn on and destroy the Triad instead of the sisters, losing their demonic selves and powers once and for all.
Then Kyle could ask for the Elders to take away his whitelighter powers so he could be mortal, a logical return favor by the Elders to the Charmed Ones, turn up to the bureau and clear things up with Keyes so the agency knows that the Halliwells are friends with powers rather than foes, and in the end get married to Paige. And, just to make it even more special and unprecedented, have it be a double wedding, with Cole getting married to Phoebe at the same time, resided over by the entire family plus certain friends and family from the dead - namely Patty and Grams, Charlotte and Melinda Warren, even Kira and Inspector Sheridan (the latter of which would've met the former and finally been taught to understand that the Halliwells were good), and most specifically Andy and Prue. Darryl Morris and family aren't actually dead, but even they could return to the final episode just to be a part of this.
If one really wants, Billie and her demonically turned sister Christy could be guests in an episode or two, with Christy getting vanquished and Billie sent on her way with well wishes, and Henry could be a guest innocent who ends up making good friends in Paige and Kyle. And Coop could be the Angel of Love and Destiny, the head of the Cupids (different Angels of Destiny, different titles, sounds appropriate enough), sent down by the Elders to conduct the double wedding as a token to that the couples united in the building are destined to go through the rest of their lives together according to the Grand Design - a welcome detour from his regular day job.
And before you ask why the Morris family would only come back at the end, their write-off was actually a very good one. The way the storyline had built between the Halliwells and Morrises, there was no way Darryl could stay in San Francisco. He sure as hell wasn't gonna keep helping them at the expense of his own family, but he respected what they were all about too much to make enemies. Leaving after that one last run was really the only logical next step.
Flash forward into the future: Piper eventually gets her own restaurant. Leo continues teaching Magic School. Phoebe publishes a best-selling book on finding love, splitting the money between the three households (as she rather likes her advice job at the Bay Mirror and thus keeps it as a main source of income). Cole becomes a prominent lawyer again. Paige becomes Piper's assistant with both the new Quake and P³, at the same time embracing her own whitelighter duties. Kyle quits the FBI and become a lieutenant at SFPD like Darryl Morris was. Except for the obvious changes, Phoebe and Cole have the same three children Phoebe and Coop would've, and Paige and Kyle have the same kids Paige and Henry would've. Obviously, in addition, Piper and Leo finally have Prudence Melinda. Eventually as everybody finally retires, Piper and Leo's three children continue the Charmed legacy while all six of their cousins provide a good supporting cast of strong witches.
*stops to think for a second* Man, this got my creative juices flowing!
Anyway, there was something else I also wanted to address. The part about how annoying it was that Piper and Leo kept getting split up and put back together all the time. Yeah, sure, it's annoying, but just like the time Piper spent choosing between Leo and Dan, it sets the stage for our resident "Keep Holding On" couple's ending together to be that much sweeter. (Conversely, if they were to finish the show not being together, it would've been that much more devastating.)
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Post by HollymCombs on Jan 24, 2009 11:11:24 GMT -5
I actually didn't think they split Piper and Leo up like a regular thing. Yes, they split Piper and Leo up and brought in the Dan storyline, but that was in the beginning of the show. Piper and Leo weren't even in a serious relationship at that point, they just decided it couldn't work because he was a whitelighter. But I agree, that storyline did make us want Leo back even more. When they got back together, it was just that much sweeter. That was the point where Piper and Leo were still figuring out how much they loved eachother. I thought it was done pretty well actually. And the only other major break up for Piper and Leo was when he became an elder. And that was quite a storyline since Chris knew that he had to somehow get them back together so he could exist. But they did find their way back to eachother, and ended up having another baby together. Those are the only two major breaks up I can think of. So I wouldn't think of them as being split up and put together all the time. They went through there difficulties, but like you said, that was what made it that much sweeter when they ended up together in the end
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Post by bessy on Jan 25, 2009 12:51:03 GMT -5
For me wthe worst was the lost of Andy and Prue!
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Post by midnight on Mar 9, 2009 1:58:24 GMT -5
The closing of season three and the opening of season four.
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Post by Buffy on Mar 9, 2009 2:02:56 GMT -5
As much as I LOVED Season 8! I didn't like the whole identity thing, and them closing there-self off from Demons, as Much as I loved how that season went..there wasn't enough action for me, I missed the old demon attack days, etc.
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Post by HollymCombs on Mar 9, 2009 17:13:28 GMT -5
The whole "2 identities" thing wasn't my favorite either, but I didn't really have much of a problem with it since it only lasted for a few episodes. Soon enough, they were back as the charmed ones, and things were back to normal.
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Post by piperhalliwell95 on Apr 5, 2009 17:31:01 GMT -5
i hated the way leo left in season 8 i think they have been through enough and i hated the whole 2 identity thing it was boring.
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Post by HollyMarieFan on Mar 3, 2010 11:42:56 GMT -5
yes i agree with the identity thing i also didnt like how there always splitting piper and leo up because it was boring seeing them breaking up and getting back together again all the time!
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